8/31/2006
ACLU Outnumbered

Crossposted from Stop The ACLU The ACLU thinks that parents have no right to know if their pregnant underage daughter is seeking an abortion. vs. America 80% of Americans think that parents have the right to know if their minor daughters are seeking an abortion. (CBS News Poll July 13-14, 2005) ________________________________________________________________ The ACLU believes anyone, for any reason at any time should be allowed to abort a child. vs. America 75% of Americans believe that there should at least be some restrictions on abortion. (CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll June 24-26, 2005) ________________________________________________________________ The ACLU opposes abstinence education. vs. America 96% of American parents with children under 17 want their kids taught that abstinence is the best approach to sex. 93% of American parents with children under 17 want their kids taught that having sex leads to disease and pregnancy. 85 % of American parents with children under 17 want abstinence to be taught with at least equal emphasis as contraception receives. 79% of American parents with children under 17 want their kids taught that teen sex leads to harmful psychological and physical effects. (http://www.heritage.org/research/welfare/bg1722.cfm) ________________________________________________________________ The ACLU has fought to have constitutionally-sound displays that include the Ten Commandments removed from public property. vs. America 75% of Americans believe that the Ten Commandments should be displayed on public property. (CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll June 24-26, 2005) ________________________________________________________________ The ACLU is on record as supporting polygamy. vs. America 92% of Americans think polygamy is morally repugnant. (The Gallup Poll May 5-7, 2003) ________________________________________________________________ The ACLU has filed cases across the nation to redefine marriage against the repeatedly expressed will of the people and, now the overwhelming affirmation by even Left-leaning courts that the state is justified in retaining the definition of marriage. (Note: the ACLU got smoked in an attempt to prevent Tennesseans from even having the opportunity to express their will at the polls this year.) vs. America 21 states have recently voted to protect marriage by an average of 70%: Alaska 68%, Hawaii 69%, Nebraska 70%, California 61%, Nevada 67%, Arkansas 75%, Georgia 76%, Kentucky 75%, Louisiana 78%, Michigan 59%, Mississippi 86%, Missouri 71%, Montana 67%, North Dakota 73%, Ohio 62%, Oklahoma 76%, Oregon 57%, Utah 66%, Kansas 70%; Alabama 81%; Texas 76% ________________________________________________________________ The ACLU believes that children should be trapped in failed public schools, even inner-city children whose parents desperately want to escape the captivity of government education. vs. America 69% of Americans believe that parents should be able to choose their child’s public school rather than being assigned based solely on residence location. (http://www.edreform.com/_upload/2005ncsw-poll.pdf). 63% of Americans believe that parents should be able to choose the best school for their child, whether public or private. (Zogby International Polling July 2002) ________________________________________________________________ The ACLU opposes personally-initiated prayer in school and moments of silence as well as individual acknowledgement of religious beliefs at public events. vs. America 83% of Americans think prayer should be permitted during school activities including graduation ceremonies. (Gallup/CNN/USA Today Poll June 25-27, 1999) ________________________________________________________________ The ACLU has filed lawsuits and threatened cities and schools all across the country to prevent Christmas from being openly celebrated in public fora. vs. America 96% of Americans celebrate Christmas 87% of Americans believe Christmas displays should be allowed on public property. (FOX News Opinion Dynamics Poll December 3-4, 2003) ________________________________________________________________ The ACLU has attacked Mt. Soledad memorial in San Diego since the the very beginning of Bush the Elder’s Administration because it includes a cross. This is just one of countless examples of the ACLU’s seek and destroy mission to eliminate all religious symbols from public grounds. vs. America 76% of San Diegans voted to save the Mt. Soledad National War Memorial from the ACLU’s attack on behalf of a single atheist. That atheist, Jim McElroy was quoted as saying following the vote: “It still doesn’t mean a damn thing,” he said, according to the San Diego Union-Tribune. “Voters should have never voted on it. It’s a waste of taxpayers’ money.” _______________________________________________________________ The reaction from ACLU-types will predictably be something like: “What is right and Constitutional is not always popular.” Easy answer: What the ACLU does is invent rights and distort the Constitution, which is why the ACLU is so UNpopular. The ACLU has used dubious interpretations of law NEVER imagined by our Founders with compliance from radical judges to push an agenda abhorrent to most Americans and indeed to the intent of the Constitution. Look no further than the ACLU’s pro bono defense of a website that advocates pedophilia and instructs its visitors in how to rape children and evade prosecution. So…the ACLU considers encouraging instruction on how to commit and get away with child rape a First Amendment right…does anyone believe that the Founders would agree? Therefore, can’t we conclude that if the ACLU is so wrong on this, that it may be wrong on many other things? Judge the evidence for yourself. This has been a production of Stop The ACLU Blogburst. If you would like to join us, please email Jay or Gribbit. You will be added to our mailing list and blogroll. Over 200 blogs already on-board.

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10 Comments »
  1. I’m not sure what your point is supposed to be. You’re entitled to disagree with the ACLU’s positions, but you have presented not a single valid argument against them in this post. You dismiss the statement “What is right in the Constitution is not always popular” even though that’s a perfectly valid defense. The fact that these positions are unpopular doesn’t prove that they’re wrong. It doesn’t prove that they’re right, either. It doesn’t prove anything, except…well, that the positions are unpopular. Many of the opinions expressed on this blog are just as unpopular with the American public as are the ACLU’s views about free speech. It doesn’t prove anything one way or another.

    Comment by Kylopod — 8/31/2006 @ 7:15 am


  2. Kylopod, the ACLU is subversive, always has been, always will be.

    The vast, VAST majority of people in this country don’t agree with the majority of the ACLU’s policies and actions because the vast, VAST majority of people in this country love this country.

    Now that we are an offical covert CIA site I want to thank you, Kylopod, for commenting and placing all of your personal information into our servers.

    Soemone will be by to discuss your views with you shortly.

    Comment by Kender — 8/31/2006 @ 9:52 pm


  3. Kylopod, the ACLU is subversive, always has been, always will be.

    That is irrelevant to what I just wrote. I did not defend the ACLU. All I did was point out that the post above offers no valid arguments. The post simply states that the ACLU is horrible, subversive, etc. and that their positions are unpopular. But it doesn’t bother to bring any arguments proving that those positions are wrong. Such arguments may exist, but none of them appear in the above post.

    The bloggers here seem to start from the assumption that their views are absolute, gospel truth, to the extent that they don’t even have to back up those views with valid arguments. They think that simply asserting the views in a loud, rambunctious manner is the proper mode of argumentation.

    Of course, you have every right to approach blogging in this way. The last thing I’m going to do is tell other people how to run their own blog. But I certainly can point out an absence of reasoned arguments when I see it. This doesn’t mean you’re wrong; it simply means that you haven’t proven that you’re right.

    Now that we are an offical covert CIA site I want to thank you, Kylopod, for commenting and placing all of your personal information into our servers.

    Soemone will be by to discuss your views with you shortly.

    :roll:

    Comment by Kylopod — 8/31/2006 @ 11:04 pm


  4. No valid arguments to what? To support the contention that the ACLU’s mission to destroy Christianity and the values of over 60% of the people living in the US? To support the fact that we should be watching them very closely and cutting off their funding because they get our taxpayer money to waste on doing precisely that?

    There is no argument as far as I can see, just facts, and you have to take your critical thinking skills from there and draw a conclusion.

    You know, a conclusion that’s not written for you at snopes or wikipedia.

    Comment by Cao — 9/1/2006 @ 3:32 am


  5. Heh. You know what, you’ve convinced me. Who needs arguments? Arguments are a liberal invention and therefore evil. You just know you’re correct, it’s so obvious it needs no explaining. The fact that I’d actually ask you to back up your opinions shows my liberal bias, since you know that your views don’t need to be backed up. Self-evident truths never do. I truly am sorry for not realizing this. My bad.

    Comment by Kylopod — 9/1/2006 @ 8:51 am


  6. Kylopod–

    Don’t overthink this. My purpose was to present a set of facts and demonstrate the truth that the ACLU is a fringe (albeit a very wealthy) organization whose agenda bears no resemblance to the America it pretends to defend.

    If you would have read the entire post, you would have noticed this:

    “Judge the evidence for yourself.”

    Is this all cleared up for you now Sparky?

    Comment by Glib Fortuna — 9/1/2006 @ 5:23 pm


  7. kylopod, the fact that you seem unable to draw conclusions from facts presented presents you as a creature unable to think critically, and that in and of itself is a critical fact to present to you as proof that facts are something you seemingly cannot grasp, therefore may I suggest that for teh next holiday you celebrate pick yourself up a book on critical thinking and a dictionary so that you may learn the definition of “fact” and maybe learn how to think critically.

    Call it a present to yourself.

    Comment by Kender — 9/2/2006 @ 4:00 pm


  8. My purpose was to present a set of facts and demonstrate the truth that the ACLU is a fringe (albeit a very wealthy) organization whose agenda bears no resemblance to the America it pretends to defend.

    So what? The ACLU’s subject–civil liberties–is not determined by majority opinion. You can disagree with the ACLU’s interpretation of civil liberties, but what most Americans believe about the subject is irrelevant, because it concerns some of the core principles of our Constitution. If you did a poll and found that a majority of Americans want to see the First Amendment repealed, that wouldn’t be a valid reason to repeal it. It’s no accident that the highest authority on interpreting Constitutional law–the Supreme Court–is largely out of the hands of the people. Thank God for that.

    Comment by Kylopod — 9/2/2006 @ 9:48 pm


  9. kylopod, the fact that you seem unable to draw conclusions from facts presented presents you as a creature unable to think critically, and that in and of itself is a critical fact to present to you as proof that facts are something you seemingly cannot grasp, therefore may I suggest that for teh next holiday you celebrate pick yourself up a book on critical thinking and a dictionary so that you may learn the definition of “fact” and maybe learn how to think critically.

    Or else I might stumble upon one of the most elementary logical fallacies and apply it to the above post.

    I don’t mean to imply, of course, that popularity is unimportant. In a democracy, it is important, but in a republic like the United States, it isn’t all-important.

    Comment by Kylopod — 9/2/2006 @ 9:49 pm


  10. The ACLU

    The ACLU, destroying moral and family values on a regular basis.

    Trackback by Staunton News — 10/8/2006 @ 1:58 pm


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