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		<title>by: Glen</title>
		<link>http://thewideawakes.org/archives/2006/02/28/mandating-restrictions-on-free-will-liberal-utopia/#comment-123493</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 22:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>A little more reading may be in order, Carol.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_redistribution&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;'The basic &lt;/a&gt;premise of the redistribution of wealth is that money should be more equally distributed so it benefits all members of society, and that the rich should be obliged to assist the poor.
And...
&quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Communism&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;From each&lt;/a&gt;, according to his ability; to each, according to his needs.&quot;-Karl Marx
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little more reading may be in order, Carol.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_redistribution" rel="nofollow">&#8216;The basic </a>premise of the redistribution of wealth is that money should be more equally distributed so it benefits all members of society, and that the rich should be obliged to assist the poor.<br />
And&#8230;<br />
&#8220;<a href="http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Communism" rel="nofollow">From each</a>, according to his ability; to each, according to his needs.&#8221;-Karl Marx
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		<title>by: Kender</title>
		<link>http://thewideawakes.org/archives/2006/02/28/mandating-restrictions-on-free-will-liberal-utopia/#comment-123323</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 17:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Carol?  You have found the EXACT PROBLEM that the members of the &quot;Right&quot; in general, and TWA specifically (as a general rule) have with the &quot;left&quot; in general and liberals in particular.

&lt;strong&gt;&quot;liberal
1. Technically, someone who falls to the left in a political system, who believes in government programs (healthcare is a good example, as is welfare) and a larger scope of government, also favors monitoring of business and protection of constitutional rights. Someone who believes that the federal government should have more importance than state government,&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;

Let's examine this is a very cursory manner, shall we?  Sort of run it up the flag pole and see what kind of splash it makes eh?

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&quot;..to the left in a political system, who believes in government programs (healthcare is a good example, as is welfare) and a larger scope of government..&quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;

Conservatives, True Conservatives, not that money spending bunch of wastrels we have in power at the moment, (&lt;em&gt;and don't take that as an endorsment of any kind for a democrat that might have been elected in the last elections, as I would rather have our hawkish moneypits running things right now than to hand the country over to a bunch of appeasing moneypits)&lt;/em&gt;, believe in SMALLER GOVERNMENT and that programs such as healthcare is NOT a government job, and except in the poorest of cases should be up to the individual to procur at their expense, as free markets make for competition make for better products at a lower price.

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&quot;..also favors monitoring of business and protection of constitutional rights...federal government should have more importance than state government&quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;

Again, True Conservatives KNOW that the Constitution was created to expressly keep most powers AWAY from the federal government, and powers delegated to the federal government are actually very few, and it is only through judicial activism, chicanery and outright theft of our rights that the federal government has come about so much power, and we would like to see it turned back around, while liberal think that the cure for all of societies ills lies with a bigger and more intrusive government.

It was a liberal that put a fascist law on the books that has forced wal-mart to pay out a certain amount of it's profits as healthcare.

It was a liberal that brought about the welfare state.

It is liberals that fawn over the system of socialism in the EU and state that only by benig more like the EU will the US survive.  In fact, it was a democrat that set us on the road to that very thing, with NAFTA being set into law by Clinton.

Socialism is the lighter, happier version of communism, and both systems are a blight on humanity and inherently evil, stealing away a man's God Given Right of Free Will and Self Determination in favor of raising up the lazy and shiftless while bringing down the hard-working and honest man.

In short, socialism steals from one to give to another, and theft is theft, state sanctioned or not, and striving for an unnaturally level standard for all men denies the very nature of humanity as surely as genetic engineering.

One would think, as a side note here, that people that worship the enviroment with such rabid devotion that way the left does would have a better appreciation for the natural order of life.

Eh....just one more hypocritical stance to add to the seemingly never ending pile of hypocritical crap to which the left blindly, stupidly adheres.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carol?  You have found the EXACT PROBLEM that the members of the &#8220;Right&#8221; in general, and TWA specifically (as a general rule) have with the &#8220;left&#8221; in general and liberals in particular.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;liberal<br />
1. Technically, someone who falls to the left in a political system, who believes in government programs (healthcare is a good example, as is welfare) and a larger scope of government, also favors monitoring of business and protection of constitutional rights. Someone who believes that the federal government should have more importance than state government,&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s examine this is a very cursory manner, shall we?  Sort of run it up the flag pole and see what kind of splash it makes eh?</p>
<p><strong><em>&#8220;..to the left in a political system, who believes in government programs (healthcare is a good example, as is welfare) and a larger scope of government..&#8221;</em></strong></p>
<p>Conservatives, True Conservatives, not that money spending bunch of wastrels we have in power at the moment, (<em>and don&#8217;t take that as an endorsment of any kind for a democrat that might have been elected in the last elections, as I would rather have our hawkish moneypits running things right now than to hand the country over to a bunch of appeasing moneypits)</em>, believe in SMALLER GOVERNMENT and that programs such as healthcare is NOT a government job, and except in the poorest of cases should be up to the individual to procur at their expense, as free markets make for competition make for better products at a lower price.</p>
<p><strong><em>&#8220;..also favors monitoring of business and protection of constitutional rights&#8230;federal government should have more importance than state government&#8221;</em></strong></p>
<p>Again, True Conservatives KNOW that the Constitution was created to expressly keep most powers AWAY from the federal government, and powers delegated to the federal government are actually very few, and it is only through judicial activism, chicanery and outright theft of our rights that the federal government has come about so much power, and we would like to see it turned back around, while liberal think that the cure for all of societies ills lies with a bigger and more intrusive government.</p>
<p>It was a liberal that put a fascist law on the books that has forced wal-mart to pay out a certain amount of it&#8217;s profits as healthcare.</p>
<p>It was a liberal that brought about the welfare state.</p>
<p>It is liberals that fawn over the system of socialism in the EU and state that only by benig more like the EU will the US survive.  In fact, it was a democrat that set us on the road to that very thing, with NAFTA being set into law by Clinton.</p>
<p>Socialism is the lighter, happier version of communism, and both systems are a blight on humanity and inherently evil, stealing away a man&#8217;s God Given Right of Free Will and Self Determination in favor of raising up the lazy and shiftless while bringing down the hard-working and honest man.</p>
<p>In short, socialism steals from one to give to another, and theft is theft, state sanctioned or not, and striving for an unnaturally level standard for all men denies the very nature of humanity as surely as genetic engineering.</p>
<p>One would think, as a side note here, that people that worship the enviroment with such rabid devotion that way the left does would have a better appreciation for the natural order of life.</p>
<p>Eh&#8230;.just one more hypocritical stance to add to the seemingly never ending pile of hypocritical crap to which the left blindly, stupidly adheres.
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		<title>by: Carol</title>
		<link>http://thewideawakes.org/archives/2006/02/28/mandating-restrictions-on-free-will-liberal-utopia/#comment-122628</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 21:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I don't recall anyone ever associating liberalism with communism before and certainly I have never thought of myself as a communist.  So I googled &quot;liberal&quot; and &quot;liberalism&quot; to see if I could find any connection between communism and liberalism and nope I couldn't.

Now what I did find is the following definition and being a liberal let me add that this is dead-on:

liberal  	 
1. Technically, someone who falls to the left in a political system, who believes in government programs (healthcare is a good example, as is welfare) and a larger scope of government, also favors monitoring of business and protection of constitutional rights. Someone who believes that the federal government should have more importance than state government,

2. Somehow, it has turned into an insult, like the word conservative. Usually used as such by people who have never taken a political science class and don't know what the word means. Often used to describe &quot;liberal media&quot; despite the fact that most media outlets are owned by conservative corporations like ClearChannel, and the prevalence of conservative talk shows.

Not being quite as liberal as some liberals, let me add that personally I can only endorse a government program if that program is actually going to lend to self sufficiency or lower costs to all Americans as whole.  In other words the program should lead to an actual costs savings or revenue increase to offset the costs.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t recall anyone ever associating liberalism with communism before and certainly I have never thought of myself as a communist.  So I googled &#8220;liberal&#8221; and &#8220;liberalism&#8221; to see if I could find any connection between communism and liberalism and nope I couldn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Now what I did find is the following definition and being a liberal let me add that this is dead-on:</p>
<p>liberal<br />
1. Technically, someone who falls to the left in a political system, who believes in government programs (healthcare is a good example, as is welfare) and a larger scope of government, also favors monitoring of business and protection of constitutional rights. Someone who believes that the federal government should have more importance than state government,</p>
<p>2. Somehow, it has turned into an insult, like the word conservative. Usually used as such by people who have never taken a political science class and don&#8217;t know what the word means. Often used to describe &#8220;liberal media&#8221; despite the fact that most media outlets are owned by conservative corporations like ClearChannel, and the prevalence of conservative talk shows.</p>
<p>Not being quite as liberal as some liberals, let me add that personally I can only endorse a government program if that program is actually going to lend to self sufficiency or lower costs to all Americans as whole.  In other words the program should lead to an actual costs savings or revenue increase to offset the costs.
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		<title>by: Kender</title>
		<link>http://thewideawakes.org/archives/2006/02/28/mandating-restrictions-on-free-will-liberal-utopia/#comment-122609</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 20:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It is official, I am talented and evil.  Carol said so...thank you Carol. I can now run for public office.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is official, I am talented and evil.  Carol said so&#8230;thank you Carol. I can now run for public office.</p>
<p>Or is that run for a pubic orifice?
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		<title>by: Gribbit</title>
		<link>http://thewideawakes.org/archives/2006/02/28/mandating-restrictions-on-free-will-liberal-utopia/#comment-122592</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 18:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Umm Carol... In case you weren't properly educated at the Communist Indoctrination Centers of America aka public high school and/or Universities, Liberal = Communist that's why they preach it.

And as for your opinion... Well you know what they say about opinions and (forgive my language because I attempt to watch mine) assholes... well it certainly applies to yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm Carol&#8230; In case you weren&#8217;t properly educated at the Communist Indoctrination Centers of America aka public high school and/or Universities, Liberal = Communist that&#8217;s why they preach it.</p>
<p>And as for your opinion&#8230; Well you know what they say about opinions and (forgive my language because I attempt to watch mine) assholes&#8230; well it certainly applies to yours.
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		<title>by: Carol</title>
		<link>http://thewideawakes.org/archives/2006/02/28/mandating-restrictions-on-free-will-liberal-utopia/#comment-122521</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>LOL!  You really are quite talented and evil.  Profanity doesn't offend me, I just don't understand why you use it.  Oh I understand why you used it here but not in general.  Taking the Lord's name in vain DOES offend me and Cartman already haunts my dreams so there is no room for you in there too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL!  You really are quite talented and evil.  Profanity doesn&#8217;t offend me, I just don&#8217;t understand why you use it.  Oh I understand why you used it here but not in general.  Taking the Lord&#8217;s name in vain DOES offend me and Cartman already haunts my dreams so there is no room for you in there too.
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		<title>by: Kender</title>
		<link>http://thewideawakes.org/archives/2006/02/28/mandating-restrictions-on-free-will-liberal-utopia/#comment-122462</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 07:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Carol?  Hi!!!

Does my invective &quot;get your goat?&quot;

Does my extremely colorful commentary rile your senses?

Does my &quot;potty mouth&quot; make you cringe when images spring, unbidden, to your mind?

Well good!!!

Perhaps you will excuse me for not giving a redheaded pigsnut about your delicate widdle feewings.....then again you may not.  I don't care if you do or not, in fact, I would rather you didn't forgive me my language, and heartfully pray that it keeps you up at night, fretting that some turn of phrase may spring to your mind and jolt you from the edge of peaceful slumber.

Is that it Carol?

Do you, on the edge of conscienceness some nights, suddenly hear a voice whisper out &quot;&lt;strong&gt;Assmuncher&lt;/strong&gt;?&quot;

Sometimes, when you are almost, but not quite asleep, does the phrase &quot;&lt;strong&gt;sleep well asshat&lt;/strong&gt;&quot; pop into your head and cause you to say &quot;DAMMIT KENDER!!!?&quot;

If it hasn't yet I bet it does now.

See?  I just planted the idea on your head.  Now that you have read this, you will, every so often, hear some words I have written just before you nod off, and, under your breath you will whisper;
&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Fucking Kender&quot; &lt;/strong&gt;.

See if you don't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carol?  Hi!!!</p>
<p>Does my invective &#8220;get your goat?&#8221;</p>
<p>Does my extremely colorful commentary rile your senses?</p>
<p>Does my &#8220;potty mouth&#8221; make you cringe when images spring, unbidden, to your mind?</p>
<p>Well good!!!</p>
<p>Perhaps you will excuse me for not giving a redheaded pigsnut about your delicate widdle feewings&#8230;..then again you may not.  I don&#8217;t care if you do or not, in fact, I would rather you didn&#8217;t forgive me my language, and heartfully pray that it keeps you up at night, fretting that some turn of phrase may spring to your mind and jolt you from the edge of peaceful slumber.</p>
<p>Is that it Carol?</p>
<p>Do you, on the edge of conscienceness some nights, suddenly hear a voice whisper out &#8220;<strong>Assmuncher</strong>?&#8221;</p>
<p>Sometimes, when you are almost, but not quite asleep, does the phrase &#8220;<strong>sleep well asshat</strong>&#8221; pop into your head and cause you to say &#8220;DAMMIT KENDER!!!?&#8221;</p>
<p>If it hasn&#8217;t yet I bet it does now.</p>
<p>See?  I just planted the idea on your head.  Now that you have read this, you will, every so often, hear some words I have written just before you nod off, and, under your breath you will whisper;<br />
<strong>&#8220;Fucking Kender&#8221; </strong>.</p>
<p>See if you don&#8217;t.
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		<title>by: Carol</title>
		<link>http://thewideawakes.org/archives/2006/02/28/mandating-restrictions-on-free-will-liberal-utopia/#comment-122387</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 23:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think you are confusing free speech with a lack of manners.  Really I do.  Some folks have it in there head that simply because they will not be arrested by the government and thrown in jail for voicing obsenities (not just profanity but vile hateful or rude speech designed to offend) that it is okay to do so.  Well it isn't.  A generation of Americans have lost their manners and unfortunately they are in the process of raising yet another generation of mannerless children.  And you have the nerve to defend your foul mouths by selling it as free speech.  Yes Kender this is directed at you!  We are all quite aware that you are proficient at profanity but I honestly do no tunderstand why you cannot express your disdain without resorting to ..well some of the words you resort to.  Forgive me for the dangling preposition.  

As for you Glen and Gribbit, you will persist in trying to define what a liberal is, how they think and what the world would look like in a society controlled by liberals.  Silly boys.  You don't know what they think and you need only look at American history to see how society would be run since liberals have dominated politics in the country before.  The truely laughable part is that if you asked a liberal to define society under a conservative fundamentalist they likely would respond that free will be would be restricted.  No not likely.  That is exactly what liberals think.  Liberals like free will .  It is one of the reasons why they are referred to as liberal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are confusing free speech with a lack of manners.  Really I do.  Some folks have it in there head that simply because they will not be arrested by the government and thrown in jail for voicing obsenities (not just profanity but vile hateful or rude speech designed to offend) that it is okay to do so.  Well it isn&#8217;t.  A generation of Americans have lost their manners and unfortunately they are in the process of raising yet another generation of mannerless children.  And you have the nerve to defend your foul mouths by selling it as free speech.  Yes Kender this is directed at you!  We are all quite aware that you are proficient at profanity but I honestly do no tunderstand why you cannot express your disdain without resorting to ..well some of the words you resort to.  Forgive me for the dangling preposition.  </p>
<p>As for you Glen and Gribbit, you will persist in trying to define what a liberal is, how they think and what the world would look like in a society controlled by liberals.  Silly boys.  You don&#8217;t know what they think and you need only look at American history to see how society would be run since liberals have dominated politics in the country before.  The truely laughable part is that if you asked a liberal to define society under a conservative fundamentalist they likely would respond that free will be would be restricted.  No not likely.  That is exactly what liberals think.  Liberals like free will .  It is one of the reasons why they are referred to as liberal.
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		<title>by: Kender</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>So on that campus I couldn't say anything about that spic chick that looks more like a wop and hangs with those bible banging fags?

So much for free speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So on that campus I couldn&#8217;t say anything about that spic chick that looks more like a wop and hangs with those bible banging fags?</p>
<p>So much for free speech.
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		<title>by: Glen</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 02:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>They must deny free will. It leads to choice. Which leads to right and wrong. Which leads to personal responsibility. This is a road no self respecting Liberal would dare follow. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They must deny free will. It leads to choice. Which leads to right and wrong. Which leads to personal responsibility. This is a road no self respecting Liberal would dare follow.
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