Comments on: ACLU Propaganda

by: Ogre

Wed, 04 Jan 2006 12:23:08 +0000

Denny, you’re a complete and total loon. But we already knew that.

If Bush broke the law (which he did not), then every president since Roosevelt did as well.

by: Denny Hix

Tue, 03 Jan 2006 21:34:11 +0000

Actually, Kender, they did say much the same thing.

That’s why Congress closed THAT loophole on Clinton and Clinton issued a new executive order telling officials in government the proceedure to follow that new law.

Bush has violated not only the 1978 FISA, but the 2001 Patriot Act — which he supposedly supports.

Both require the President to obtain warrants before wiretapping inside the US.

And these are CITIZENS Bush has ordered spying on. Some naturalized, many more BORN and raised in the USA.

People who hold politicians accountable to the people those politicians work for are not undermining the government. They are supporting the government — and the Constitution.

by: Kender

Mon, 02 Jan 2006 11:25:32 +0000

Chase, you seemingly obtuse piece of grabasstic amphibian shit, the ACLU is only calling for an investigation of the monitoring programs of the NSA and the warrantless wiretaps of the Bush administration, (and fighting an investigation of who leaked sensitive, classified info) because it is part of their agenda to take Bush, (and conservatives) out of power.

They didn’t say one word when Clinton did much worse to American CITIZENS when he sent in agents w/o warrants to search houses.

If someone is not a CITIZEN or legal resident of the U.S. they should have no rights under our laws.

by: Chase Cooper

Sun, 01 Jan 2006 04:20:22 +0000

You originally accused the ACLU of wanting to help the terrorists, Kender. Would you make up your mind what your objection to the FOIA request, and stick to that position, please?

There is little point in whining that the ACLU has already decided that the President is guilty of lying. That is an established fact, given that he made claims that warrants were sought for wiretaps well after he authorized the warrantless wiretaps.

by: Kender

Sat, 31 Dec 2005 23:00:21 +0000

“ernie” pearce, what I object to is a blatant bias in certain people cough**fukinleftees**cough that demand investigations only when it would be politically advantageous, and if a conservative tried that the left would yell “politics!!!”.

by: MB

Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:53:31 +0000

Regardless of ones political affiliation, the media is grooming this one… As we continue to fight an unknown enemy, who is willing to trust their lives and security of our country, divided between declarations of the FOIA, and the expectations of the ACLU.
…Speaking of which… I’m always wondering what’s next with the ACLU. Will voting soon become unconstitutional? (Perhaps, on the basis that Democracy is NOT majoritarianism, I suppose?) Relying upon the articulations, comprehencabilities of those with hands tied behind their backs, just doesn’t cut it for me.

by: Ernie Pearce

Fri, 30 Dec 2005 21:27:00 +0000

Sounds to me, Kender, as though you would equate any challenge to the legality of the actions of the President as an attempt to destroy the country. Is that not just a tad melodramatic? Perhaps you need to be reminded that the President is not the country itself.

by: Kender

Fri, 30 Dec 2005 18:57:29 +0000

We also have a right to not have the government undermined by factions within this country that would see it destoyed.

by: Denny Hix

Fri, 30 Dec 2005 17:22:27 +0000

A free society cannot stay free when it’s government keeps secrets — that need now be secrets.

Carol pointed out cases where the FOIA will not allow material released.

We have a right to see that our government is doing the job it promises to do. That is why we have the FOIA.

by: Kender

Fri, 30 Dec 2005 02:08:12 +0000

I am demanding that the government appoint a special investigator to investigate whether the ACLU is, in fact, a front for a communist organization that has the goal of destroying the U.S. as it’s goal, and I further demand that the ACLU release all records relating to everything they have done in court, including all internal memo’s, that date back 10 years.

The ACLU kidnapped me and held me in secret ACLU prisons in Poughkeepsie for the last 5 days, dousing me in rum and dropping me in front of a nudie bar at 3 AM.

I demand 250 thousand in compensation and an end to the tyranny of the ACLU.