1/6/2005
NO RETREAT…NO SURRENDER

Man, it’s days like this that make blogging a whole lot of fun! Moonbats in full flowering moonbattery! The “Reality Based Community” at its oxymoronic best!

Today is the day that the November election for President of the United States is certified by the Congress. That is, the electoral vote count from the vote held December 10, 2004 when the Electoral College convened will be tallied and agreed to in a Joint Resolution by the House and Senate.

A mere formality, right?

One would think so. Hell, even Kos seemed to have thrown in the towel;

Us liberal bloggers like to brag that we live in the “reality-based community”. It’s kind of hard to be reality-based when people are claiming that Kerry won with no hard evidence to the contrary. Was there fraud? Sure. There always has been. Was the GOP ready to steal the election if necessary? No doubt. But they didn’t have to steal this one. This wasn’t 2000. Bush rode his fucked up war to victory, whether we like it or not. History will judge us right, but until then, we’re stuck with the results.

Now, I was open minded at first, letting the fraudsters do the analysis, ready to pounce if the smoking gun was found. But after myriad diaries crying wolf, claiming that this was the evidence to seal the deal, well, it got old. Then it got counterproductive, then it got embarrassing. (HT: Wizbang)

Leaving aside the usual blatherings of this blithering, idiotic, nincompoop about why Bush won and the judgment of history (FLASH! Moonbats confuse history with fantasy!), Kos seems to have given in to the inevitable…or has he? This from yesterday:

After giving this much thought, I am signing on to the notion that indeed, Democratic Representatives and Senators should contest the Ohio electors tomorrow. That was not my opinion a week ago, but it is now. I’ve changed my mind not because new evidence has been presented, or new arguments have arisen, but because, in the climate of today, right now, this moment, I believe that Congress is in a tactical position to make a difference.

I do not believe any evidence exists to claim that Kerry definitively received more votes in Ohio than Bush, and I believe the oft-cited exit poll evidence, in particular, is weak. But this election needs to be contested on more fundamental grounds; as an objection to the behavior of partisan election officials, unwilling to take seriously the sacred nature of their duties.

Here’s Kevin Alyward’s take:

“Ah, contest the Ohio electors as a form of political grandstanding. Good luck with that. I’m sure the voting public will be quick to forgive and forget that Democrats couldn’t concede an election they clearly lost by invoking a maneuver they could not even bring themselves to use in 2000…”

Representative John Conyers, the uber-liberal from Michigan has written a “report.” I put that word in quotes because a report is supposed to contain facts. Mr. Conyers doesn’t let that kind of nonsense stand in his way:

The 102-page report titled “Preserving Democracy: What Went Wrong in Ohio?” lists such problems as unusually long lines, a shortage of voting machines in Democratic-leaning areas, confusion over provisional ballot rules and computer problems.

The report also contends there were widespread instances of intimidation and misinformation, improper purging of voter registration lists, a lack of inspection for about 93,000 ballots where no vote was cast for president, and vote totals not matching registration numbers or exit poll data. (HT: Captains Quarters)

The Capn’ summarizes the record and offers a reason the Democrats lost in words of less than three syllables so that even moonbats could grasp what he’s saying:

We’ve gone over the nuts and bolts — mostly nuts — of Conyers’ arguments on this blog and others. After a costly recount and the move of just over 300 votes, Conyers and the Democrats know that further recounts won’t win them the election, and so they intend on casting aspersions on the legitimacy of the contest itself. They have chosen Kenneth Blackwell as their bete noir, just as they smeared Kathleen Harris in Florida four years ago. As I wrote below, in the face of the inexplicable (How could Bush actually beat Kerry?), conspiracy theories grow like mushrooms in the dark.

Of course, the explanation that the Democrats fielded a terrible candidate that ran a lousy campaign never occurs to them.

All Representative Conyers needs is one Senator to co-sponsor his effort to contest the Ohio election result and we’d have a mess on our hands. It’s unclear whether or not there could be an immediate up or down vote in each Chamber to reject the objection. If not, a Joint Session of the House and Senate would have to be called to consider the objection.

Madness! Even Conyers admits there’s no way to overturn Bush’s victory. Why then proceed with the charade? And what would be the consequences?

Clearly, some Democrats have decided that any election they can’t win fairly at the ballot box must be delegitimized in the eyes of the public. What does this strategy hold of the future of the Republic? Here’s Mark Noonan at Blogs for Bush with some thoughts on that:

We are awaiting events right now - we are waiting to see if a Democratic Senator will join into the lunacy of a challenge to the crystal-clear victory by President Bush. If such a challenge is issued, then it is a very sad day for the United States - it will be, I fear, merely the first page in a long and bloody story to be written. I base this fear upon the understanding that if a free and fair election is to be held illegitimate by a substantial majority of the citizenry then we are not a united people by any stretch of the imagination - that a segment of our population has essentially renounced the United States and holds it illegitimate. Of such emotions civil wars are made - and if the Democrats take this fateful step, then a river of blood may eventually flow from their actions.

This may be a worst case scenario and not very likely…but the precedent Mark cites is spot on. With the country divided the way it is now, nothing is beyond imagining.

We’re at war. The entire world watches every move the United States makes. Every attempt to hurt the President cheers our enemies and depresses our friends. We used to call this kind of thing “giving aid and comfort to the enemy.”

Now it’s just part of the game of politics.

Cross-posted at Right Wingnuthouse

Said Rick Moran @ 7:07 am | Permalink   

7 Comments »
  1. I just thought I would try this out.

    This quote

    “Of course, the explanation that the Democrats fielded a terrible candidate that ran a lousy campaign never occurs to them.”

    sums it up perfectly.

    Comment by Tomslick — 1/11/2005 @ 12:19 pm


  2. No, it is still aiding and abetting, IMO, no matter how you try to whitewash it.

    Comment by Cao — 1/15/2005 @ 8:27 pm


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